Ground zero and Christian fanatics

[clover]

From where I sit the Christian fanatics are as scary to democracy and the Constitution as the Muslims.  American was not formed as a Christian nation.  the separation of church and state and religious freedom were foremost in the minds of the founding fathers.  No where in the bill of rights, or the Constitution is there one word about Jesus Christ.....lets keep it that way

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/the_christian_fascists_are_growing_stronger_20100607/

[martinbsmithjr]

From where I sit I am sickened by all the people the Christians are stoning to death, the young girls being killed by their fathers for their honor, their complete refusal to believe anyone can believe differently than them and live, and most important those self same Christians are out there preaching hate every minute of every day. From where you sit I doubt you can actually see anything.

[clover]

what you just referenced happens all over the world.  Families sell their daughters into prostitution in SE asia.  Indian women drown their new born daughters.....it goes on and on.  the issue is about America, what it's founded on and how it will survive intact.
(not all muslims are terrorists.....and if you think different then explain what we're doing in Iraq and Afghanistan working with terrorists whil young men die every day

PS  from where i sit martin prejudice and religious intolerance are the enemies of America and the Constitution of the United States of America

[reaper]

I wonder if everyone would be up in arms if Westboro Baptist Church went in by ground zero.

[martinbsmithjr]

I heard Greg Gutfeld say that he was all for the community center part of the mosque because he wanted to open a gay bar in the cultural center to help gay muslims get comfortable with their lifestyles. He is going to call the bar "you mecca me hot".

[clover]

I wonder if everyone would be up in arms if Westboro Baptist Church went in by ground zero.

http://barenakedislam.wordpress.com/2010/08/12/theres-a-mosque-inside-the-pentagon/

They're celebrating Ramadan inside the Pentagon as we speak,  as we spend a trillion dollars and at least 5000 lives to free Muslims from dictatorship in Iraq and Afghanistan, fighting the righteous war.
Then comes the Muslim Mosque and ground zero.
Then we wonder why the world doubts our intentions.

[clover]

I heard Greg Gutfeld say that he was all for the community center part of the mosque because he wanted to open a gay bar in the cultural center to help gay muslims get comfortable with their lifestyles. He is going to call the bar "you mecca me hot".

This is America........Greg can build whatever he wants...tell him to get his wallet out

[martinbsmithjr]

Be serious. It will never happen because they would kill him first and that would be the peaceful moderates.

[rykat]

"Then we wonder why the world doubts our intentions."
Who gives a shit!? Oh thats right Obamappeasement!

[clover]

Who gives a shit!?

Exactly

we weren't freeing Muslims we were looking for oil fields and profits for big business servicing the military industrial complex.....Rykat gets it right

[clover]

Be serious. It will never happen because they would kill him first and that would be the peaceful moderates.

He makes sure the property is zoned correctly and he gets his wallet out.
I develop real estate for a living.    Your remark is just meaningless

[martinbsmithjr]

How many synagogues and churches are there in Riyadh or Jedda? It is not meaningless because they would literally kill him as that is the punishment under Sharia for homosexuality (although I understand it is widespread in the muslim world especially between young boys and literally their uncles). I can hardly believe you develop anything but enmity for a living but if you are so sure of this why don't you get your wallet out do the development - I promise you lots of publicity and predict a premature death.

[clover]

How many synagogues and churches are there in Riyadh or Jedda? It is not meaningless because they would literally kill him as that is the punishment under Sharia for homosexuality (although I understand it is widespread in the muslim world especially between young boys and literally their uncles). I can hardly believe you develop anything but enmity for a living but if you are so sure of this why don't you get your wallet out do the development - I promise you lots of publicity and predict a premature death.

We're talking about America and specifically New York City, not Riyadh.....more specifically I don't give a sh5t what happens there(Riyadh)...I'm talking about here.  I don't care about their country or how they run it.  If I had my way we wouldn't be there.
As far as my business goes, I do quite well frankly and do not see a slump for some time to come....so what you think about what I do or how I do it and how successful I am is again.........meaningless  I'd be happy to develop the mosque property for the Iman if it met the jurisdictional requirements............there's an easy million in it for the developer..........and again I wouldn't care what you or those like you thought  This is america.....ain't it grand

[martinbsmithjr]

You will do well as long as everything is done in the US unless you put up something they disagree with. They didn't crash those planes into buildings in Saudi Arabia but in New York. Frankly, you are a very tiresome and irksome person with a mean and arrogant streak that shows everytime you touch the keyboard. I am reminded again of my grandfathers advice about pigs (no he wasn't muslim) so this will be my last post and interaction with you and your detestable attitude.

[clover]

Martin, if you don't like me feel free to ignore me.   I feel the same about your attitude......but this is America so the free exchange of ideas is kinda part of the fabric...if that annoys you, oh well.............   I'm not arrogant Martin, just not subservient to you